Observe Some of the Resultant Idolatry - the "Church of Bono" / U2 Church ???!!!
posted by Theresa1 at 1:28 PM
Sunday, November 13, 2005
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I just read this comment on another fansite too:
"yay Bono, high priest of rock & roll, leader of the church of U2!"
Anything so long as its not God's own commands and principles with their moral - gasp - restrictions, etc., right? (That was sarcasm.)
In a recent featured Rolling Stone interview, Bono claims he has an "anointing."
Well, guess what - it's NOT with YAHWEH'S SPIRIT - otherwise he wouldn't be running down Yahweh/Jehovah and Jesus Christ and their words. He also would not be promoting false religion, other gods, and/or idolatry of other institutions of man for the sake of humanitarian works or so-called "peace" (a very shallow, instable thing when hearts are void of peace based on godly principles).
There ARE anointed humans left on earth still. They worship Jehovah (Yahweh) alone, in spirit and truth. They preach his scriptural truth to the world. They promote his heaven-based Kingdom for earth - with Jesus as God's appointed King of it - as mankind's only hope for the future.
They are Christ's brothers. They were already dedicated, water-baptized, faithful servants of Jehovah/Yahweh when they are called. There are under 8900 of them left on earth, and most of them are aged, they being mostly "called" to serve as kings and priests with Christ in the heavens (Revelation 5:9,10) BEFORE the gathering of the "great crowd" of those who will live forever on paradise earth began in intensity (approximately 1935).
Those who are of the anointed - "the holy ones of the Supreme one" /spiritual "Israel"/ Abraham's "seed" - his "sons" and adoptive "sons" in the spiritual sense that matters - do not appreciate the work they head, the preaching God's of scriptural truth to the world, being so badly muddled up by false preachers teaching religio-politics that have nothing to do with God's requirements or his REAL "Kingdom come."
Here's another quote from a fansite, showing, again, showing again the ungodly, anti-scriptural spirit of the misleading and the misled:
"Bono has reminded people how many verses in scripture work against poverty and how few condemn sexuality (I've been googling for the exact quote, but I'm sure some people in here have seen it)."
Yes, I read what is being referred to hear also...
For any "Bible student" to claim that very few scriptures condemn [illicit] sexuality makes them either A.)An conscience-impaired individual who cannot or will not read what is in front of them in the Bible they speak of; or B.) A liar.
Sex worship is something Satan has lured humans into since before the flood. Bono has openly demonstrated symptoms/clues in music and speech that show a tendency towards sex worship as his recommended approach to "God." His messages this way have NOT been truly scripturally supported, but are, rather, his own notions - ideas that smack of age-old, idolatrous pagan and spiritistic religious practices that are NOT ACCEPTABLE to Yahweh (they OFFEND and ANGER him).
In the time of ancient Israel, those of the nations around them who had no regard for Yahweh introduced pagan-demonistic sex worship to many of the Israelites. It corrupted their nation. Many worshiping the Baal (sex) gods would try to promote this false worship to their fellow Israelites. They would try to mix pure worship of Yahweh/Jehovah on his own terms with idolatrous worship of the sex gods. Jehovah made it clear that he hated such insulting, corrupt "worship", and withdrew his blessing. The disloyal ones even continued to use Jehovah/Yahweh's name as if they were true to him. They were not, however. Their hypocrisy and ungodly actions tormented the small number among them who were actually still loyal to the God of that name.
Do not be misled by anyone. Check God's words to see if spiritual ideas taught by people are really true, or whether they are their own faulty philosophies/wishes.
2Timothy 4:3,4 -
"For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, IN ACCORD WITH THEIR OWN DESIRES, they will accumulate teachers for themselves TO HAVE THEIR EARS TICKLED; AND THEY WILL TURN THEIR EARS AWAY FROM THE TRUTH, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories."
Here's more of the off and clueless - which "tickles the ears" of those who put pleasure-before-God, and who are looking for pseudo-worship without the bother of Yahweh/Jehovah's own required scriptural terms and conditions:
http://forum.interference.com/t145257.html
Bono also has some tag-along false religious preachers who publically praise his spiritual "wisdom." They sell books and/ or otherwise write about such. These "preachers" may quote some scriptures, but they violate what is holy by misapplying them on issues and overall - against God's truth.
For some, the Bible prophesy of Jude applies:
"These men are murmurers, complainers about their lot in life, PROCEEDING ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN DESIRES, and their mouths speak swelling things, WHILE THEY ARE ADMIRING PERSONALITIES FOR THE SAKE OF [THEIR OWN] BENEFIT." (Jude 16)
Like Bono, they promote religious ecumenalism, even though God's global warning message, in CONTRAST, is for people to hurry up and CUT THEIR TIES with the false religious institutions of this world, because Satan's entire world empire of false religions will soon be destroyed by a multi-national political creation of man. [Revelation 18:4,5,8; 17:15-18]
Also, like Bono, they promote trust in kingdoms of men - political powers - even though all the nations are soon to be crashed by God's heavenly army for their injustice, etc. [Daniel 2:44]).
Going along with Bono/using Bono as their poster boy-promoter-hero, they can be found speaking and acting in opposition to the messages of Yahweh's incoming, heaven-based global Kingdom government for this earth, under rule by his Son Jesus Christ.
This Kingdom, with its restoration of Divine rulership, is the running theme of the entire Bible; yet these so-called "experts" have FAILED to show understanding of the nature of this Kingdom - a basic Bible concept - and to hail it as the one true hope for mankind's future. They are too busy looking for accolades, reknown, favor, and perhaps money from men to really care about and teach the less "popular" thoughts provided by Yahweh/Jehovah and Jesus Christ.
In addition, these so-called preachers FAIL, FAIL, FAIL to uphold the commands and principles of God Almighty: The conglomerate "Church of Bono" is about putting down the word of God and exalting manmade philosophies to satisfy the moment - be it rationalizing sexual immorality (including homosexuality) or engaging in spiritual adultery and hypocrisy - selling out God's truth, "accepting" religious lies and forming spiritual alliances with spiritual liars for the sake of working "together" in effort to provide for some fleshly needs, and also for [fake] "peace."
CONTRAST James 4:4 -
"Adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy with God."
The "C.O.B." is also about showing disregard and disrespect for God and Christ - as one sees fit; and trying to "save" the world through pseudo-worship of God mixed with "social justice."
Bono has taught that David used to get angry at and impatient towards God and speak disrespectfully to him - so people should feel free to be angry and impatient and disrespectful to God. THE TRUTH IS that NO SCRIPTURE shows David speaking disrespectfully towards God - even while he was questioning what God was purposing, he addressed him, "O Jehovah..." Furthermore, David had a relationship with God and, for the most part, worked with him faithfully. He had an understanding for what Jehovah's will is.
Basically, the false religionist-preachers do NOT understand and/or care about who Jehovah/Yahweh really is and what his will is. So, the result is that there are many UNGODLY U2 fans who write things on message boards, etc. that show a grotesque level of DISRESPECT for their Maker and Lifegiver, along with ungodliness (and a hostility toward God's words of truth which are disciplinary).
Apparently, they feel comfortable and supported, as U2 fans on U2 fansites, in wantonly reveling in their insolence towards God - as if feeling and enjoying the approval of each other and their "teachers" - especially that of the main teacher/ band leader.
And Satan's lies just keep rolling off tongues....here's more (link below). Surprised?
Here, BONO is teaching that it is NOT NECESSARY TO OBEY God and Christ's commands ( have "good behavior") in order to be a good Christian. The false religionist writing the article is apparently very glad about that - to the point where he is publically recommending this philosophy.
Both Bono and this so-called "minister" are seriously risking INCURRING BLOODGUILT FOR THEIR CASUAL, CARELESS, ANTI-SCRIPTURAL/ ANTI-CHRIST/ ANTI-YAHWEH teachings.
CONTRAST what Bono and this "minister" teach to what God Almighty's words are; keeping in mind that your life and the life of others depends on what God, not Bono, thinks of you:
"This takes into account that it is righteous on God's part to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for you, but, to you who suffer tribulation, relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels in a flaming fire AS HE BRINGS VENGEANCE upon those who do not know God AND THOSE WHO DO NOT OBEY the good news about our Lord Jesus." (2Thessalonians 1:6-8)
"And he [God] will render to each one according to his works...for those who are contentious and who DISOBEY THE TRUTH but obey unrighteousness there will be wrath and anger, tribulation and distress..." (Romans 2:7)
"FOR IF WE PRACTICE SIN WILLFULLY after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, but there is a certain fearful expectation of judgment and [there is] a fiery jealousy that is going to consume those in opposition. Any man that has disregarded the law of Moses dies without compassion, upon the testimony of two or three. OF HOW MUCH MORE PUNISHMENT, do you think, will the man be counted worthy who has TRAMPLED UPON THE SON OF GOD and who has ESTEEMED AS OF ORDINARY VALUE THE BLOOD of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and who has OUTRAGED THE SPIRIT OF UNDESERVED KINDNESS WITH CONTEMPT? (Hebrews 10:26-29)
"Do you not know that if you keep presenting yourselves to anyone as slaves to obey him, you are slaves of him because you obey him, EITHER OF SIN, WITH DEATH IN VIEW or of OBEDIENCE with righteousness in view?" (Romans 6:16)
"Not everyone saying to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one DOING THE WILL of my Father who is in the heavens will. MANY WILL SAY TO ME IN THAT DAY, "lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?' And yet I will confess to them: I NEVER KNEW YOU! GET AWAY FROM ME, YOU WORKERS OF LAWLESSNESS.'" (Jesus at Matthew 7:21-23. Also see the next verses, 7:24 through 27.)
"IF YOU LOVE ME, YOU WILL OBSERVE MY COMMANDMENTS...HE THAT HAS MY COMMANDMENTS AND OBSERVES THEM, THAT ONE IS HE WHO LOVES ME...If anyone loves me, HE WILL OBSERVE MY WORD...HE THAT DOES NOT LOVE ME DOES NOT OBSERVE MY WORD...IF YOU OBSERVE MY COMMANDMENTS, YOU WILL REMAIN IN MY LOVE, just as I have observed the commandments of my Father and remain in his love." (John 14:15,21,23,24; 15:10)
There are SO MANY COMMANDS and PRINCIPLES THAT HAVE BEEN PURPOSELY PROVIDED BY GOD and CHRIST for the good of individuals and mankind; for the sanctification of God's name; and for humans to do God's will that it is spiritually ludicris for any human to declare that it is not necessary for people to pay attention to God's instruction and obey it.
So, clearly, what Bono and this man (and many other similar "preachers") teach IS FATALLY UNTRUE according to God's words - falsehoods that can cost you and others your eternal lives. OBEDIENCE to God's principles and commands IS NECESSARY. God REQUIRES it of those he will let be part of his new world system here.
http://forum.interference.com/a146239.html
The "Church of Bono" trend:
http://www.atu2.com/news/article.src?ID=4110
Are people SUPPOSED to call out God's name - Yahweh/Jehovah - and speak about him to the world, every good opportunity they get?
YES - especially in these last days before Armageddon. That is what will really help SAVE LIVES in the most important way. (Romans 10:13-15)
BUT THE TEACHING NEEDS TO BE TRULY SCRIPTURAL - OF GOD'S "SPIRIT AND TRUTH." (John 4:24)
Those teaching it must live and behave so as to bring the God whose name they use honor and not dishonor.
Satan heads a world empire of false religions. Included among those false religions is the sector of Christendom - false Christianity with its many variations.
The world does not need yet another so-called "Christian" church that uses God and Christ's names, yet opposes their teachings with man-made, anti-scriptural philosophies.
Jehovah/Yahweh already has a global congregation of TRUE Christians. Being a God of order, not of disorder, he has always only worked with one organization on earth at a time. First it was the patriarchs; then Noah and his family; then the Jews; then the first-century Christians; and now, in the time of the end, as prophesied, a people gathered from around the world THAT BEAR HIS NAME, that practice his truth, and that preach his scriptural messages and exalt his most holy name to the world: Jehovah/Yahweh's (or the same Divine name naturalized into other languages) Witnesses. (Isaiah 43:5-13)
He feeds his household on earth, through the channel of HEAVENLY Zion/ Jerusalem/ Israel - his wife-like organization of faithful spirit beings; who then disperse that spiritual food to others. (Matthew 24:45; Hebrews 12:22, Galatians 4:26)
It is to his ONE organization on earth that people of all the nations must stream (Isaiah 2:2), for instruction through his word, and for preservation through the end of this old world system. To dedicate oneself to do God's will, to be baptized and to remain true to this "one faith" - obedient to God and his direction - is to enter and remain in a state that is equivalent to being in the Ark of Noah's day. (Ephesians 4:5; 1Peter 3:21) It is how to be carried through Armageddon into God's righteous new world system here - a peaceful and just paradise earth forever - "home."
(Psalm 37:11,29; Isaiah 25:6-9)
THE TIME IS NOW to help others see the need to get out of/ avoid false religion (Revelation 18:4,5,8) and GET INTO the one and only "ARK" - it will mean their lives and ours. (Ezekiel 33:8,9; 1Timothy 4:16)
BTW, according to the previously mentioned article,
Steve Stockman, chaplain and author of "Walk On - THe Spiritual Journey of U2 - states:
"The Bible never tells us not to say the f-word but to feed the poor."
Again, those who want to preach for God are SUPPOSED TO USE HIS WORD AS THE AUTHORITY FOR WHAT THEY TEACH.
As shown before, God requires obedience to his commands and principles, and that means all of them -
"Man must live, not on bread alone, but by EVERY UTTERANCE coming forth through Jehovah's mouth." (Matthew 4:4)
Jehovah [Yahweh] HAS provided BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES that DO COVER VULGAR-OBSCENE SPEECH:
"Deaden, therefore, your body members that are upon the earth as respects FORNICATION, uncleanness, sexual appetite*, hurtful desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. On account of these things, the wrath of God is coming. In those very things, you, too, once walked when you used to live in them. BUT NOW REALLY PUT THEM ALL AWAY FROM YOU, wrath, anger, badness, ABUSIVE SPEECH >>>AND OBSCENE TALK OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. Do not be lying to one another. Strip off the old personality with its practices, and clothe yourselves with the new [personality], which through accurate knowledge is being made new according to the image of the One who created it" (Colossians 3:5-10)
*[This refers to wrongful sexual appetite rather than the kind one rightly has for their marriage mate.(Proverbs 5:18,19)]
"Let a rotten saying not proceed out of your mouth" (Ephesians 4:29)
"Let FORNICATION and uncleanness of every sort or greediness NOT EVEN BE MENTIONED AMONG YOU, JUST AS IT BEFITS HOLY PEOPLE; neither shameful conduct nor foolish talking NOR OBSCENE JESTING, things which are not becoming, but rather the giving of thanks. For you know this, recognizing it for yourselves, that no fornicator or unclean person or greedy person - which means being an idolater - has any inheritance in the kingdom of God and Christ.
LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU WITH EMPTY WORDS, FOR BECAUSE OF THE AFORESAID THINGS THE WRATH OF GOD IS COMING UPON THE SONS OF DISOBEDIENCE." (Ephesians 5:3-6. Please continue reading through verse 20.)
Two theories on the origin of the particular word in question (both acrynoms):
1.)Fornication Under the Creedence of the King
2.)For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
(Said to be a sign that was posted on/near stocks holding criminals convicted of such.)
Either way, the word speaks of fornication/violation. Not good.
Swearing is a VERY hard habit to break, but as God's words show, not only can it be done, but he also rightly expects it to be done.
"You ask me to enter/ But then you make me crawl."
That's right -
"And to you the sons of those afflicting you must go, bowing down; and all those treating you disrespectfully must bend down at the very soles of your feet, and they will have to call you the city of Jehovah, Zion of the Holy One of Israel." (Isaiah 60:14)
Also, Jehovah/Yahweh disciplines the ones he loves, for his righteous purposes. - Hebrews 12:6,7.
"I've come crawling, falling at your feet...All the information...All the big ideas...All the radio waves... Electronic seas...HOW TO NAVIGATE...How to simply be...[To know] when to wait...Explain[] simplicity...In whom shall I trust...How might I be still...TEACH ME TO SURRENDER, NOT MY WILL, THY WILL."
(From "Falling at Your Feet" - Bono/Lanois)
Unbelievable.
http://forum.interference.com/t157991.html
In a documentary film on Irish music, regarding his make of "Wild Irish Rose" (which he chose to end rather torridly, I might add); Bono said, of the differents ways a "rose" was used metaphorically, that he wanted to "CO-ORGANIZE and SUBVERT THEM." I felt that saying really stood out...
"Co-organize and subvert them"...Through double-talk, that is what Bono and the U2 (by support) have
been doing to false religions - in ways Bono is evidently aware of, as seen in his words and performances.
Though he puts forth the idea that this "agreement" among men - "coexisting" between these religions (despite THE TRUTH that God DOES have HIS OWN scriptural REQUIREMENTS for worship) is important for world "peace"; he is also using people this way too - having different [false] religionists get together; along with politicians, businessmen and even athiests; to gain and fortify funding for the poor in Africa, etc.
Another media mogul did this "co-organize and subvert" bit in 1995, under an NGO called "Global Governance." The man brought together many leaders of false religion. He impressed them into signing statements acquiescing their various faiths - he had them sign papers saying that their religion was not the only true one.
Amid a page of handwritten lyrics, at the Rock and Roll Museum in Cleveland a couple of years or so ago (when the big U2 exhibit was up); I saw that Bono had jotted down a phrase that this man was "the king of America" (though that may have been cynicism/sarcasm).
It is peculiar that Bono has tried to do this same sort of thing - ironically to the tune of "love and peace." At concerts this tour, Bono features his headband and large lit icon that both spell out "COEXIST". The word is formed utilizing three [pagan] symbols of major [false] religions. Bono speaks of them as all being worthy, as all three being true - that all should be regarded as acceptable ways of worshiping God. [Why is any man daring to say what is acceptable worship of God without basing their teaching on God Almighty's own stated terms of worship as given in his Bible?]
In others words, just like the man who had the [false] religionists sign that theirs was not the only true faith - that the other [false]
faiths were likewise true; so Bono has brought masses of people to the same agreement. They have clapped and cheered their consent and approval instead of signifying it with pen on paper.
Co-organize and subvert, co-organize and subvert. Look how far its gone, how very much people have been subverted to spiritual lies and idolatry: A lot of people who claim to be Christian are zealously taking these elements (including the spiritism of the lies) right into the bosom of their worship of God.
They are being subverted, yes. Many false religionists are falling for the same - they have this in common, they are "one" this way. By not loving and seeking God's own truth through his words and spirit, and by not hating what is bad (spiritual lies, injustice, immorality, etc.) strongly enough, many people are letting themself be seduced/ subverted. They are being co-organized and subverted in with a prophesied, doomed, God-condemned global empire of false religion.
And really, that's just it. All along, humans who have thought that they were so clever so as to manipulate others away from true worship of One True God, according to his own stated purposes and standards - to get them to follow and put their trust instead into men and men's agendas based on disowning God and/or his scriptural teachings- have really been letting themselves be subverted and are party to subverting others to do the will of the most incidious, lying subverter of truth and goodness that there is: Satan the Devil.
He is the one behind the co-organization of the global empire of false religions that now exists, as prophesied, in these "last days." This conglomerate of all false religions is referred to symbolically as "Babylon the Great." (Revelation 17:5 - the description runs through chapters 17 and 18.) Most of mankind that claims a religion has been subverted to it.
This global empire of all false religions has also let itself be subverted/ seduced into spiritual adultery with another major sector of Satan's world system: The political element. False religion and the political element have enjoyed a mutual relationship for a long, long time. So Satan continues to utilize this duo to co-organize and subvert the bulk of mankind.
Soon, however, by Divine intervention, the political element of Satan's world will suddenly turn against the false religious element, and will destroy it. Satan's "house" will be divided against itself, and it will fall. Those who continue to be party to man's and Satan's will to co-organize and subvert humans against Jehovah/Yahweh by spiritual lies - despite warning being given them - will receive God's vengeance upon themselves for their inexcusable unrighteousness towards him and in regard to their fellow man.
Co-organize and subvert, co-organize and subvert...seems real clever until beings try working this against the True God and his interests.
Why would anyone think that the One who created the heavens; the earth, and everything and everyone on it did not wholly intend to carry out his purposes???
Its because people ignore the REAL scriptural meaning of God's personal name. "YAHWEH", "JEHOVAH", and the other naturalized forms of the Tetragrammaton do NOT mean merely a stagnant, self-affirmation by God regarding his own existence: God's name does NOT mean "I AM". (That is an extortion of the meaning of God's name, used by trinitarians to match up with an extorted simple statement by Jesus, to try to "prove" that Jehovah and Jesus are the same being.) Instead, the meaning of God's personal name is: "HE CAUSES TO BECOME." The meaning of his name is further explained in Exodus 3:14 to be this: "I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE."
Realizing the truth about what God's own chosen name actually means; there is no reason to doubt that the Creator and Sovereign of the Universe will "prove to be" whatever he will "prove to be" in order to cause whatever he so wills "to become."
So, when God speaks (his words for us are in his Bible), listen. When others speak, remember that they certainly are NOT God - even if they are rich, "powerful", and famous among fellow men on this space-speck called earth. Scrutinize whatever claims they make against the force of the living, always true words of the Creator himself.
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